Watching Foundation: “Upon Awakening”

In the Unfinished Business Department. I started these “Watching Foundation” posts while Season 1 was running. I’m going to try to wrap these up as I finish my Season 1 rewatch. Slightly edited thoughts from the initial watch. I’m not removing things that turned out to be wrong, I’ll add parenthetical comments.

Can I do it? It’s five more episodes in four days, let’s give it a try.

Watching Foundation – S1E05

Spoiler Alert! There may be plot complications!

You know how this works. Joseph’s Random thoughts about Episode 5, no post-podcast revelations this time. Simultaneously published at ComicsTheUniverseAndEverything.net.

The Black Hole story scares Gaal because of the Event Horizon. In her dream, she’s swimming in the darkness and that does not scare her; but the water stands for her religion and it’s telling that it’s in darkness.

Another interesting font.  

They put those prayer stones into infants.  Barbaric.

Upon Awakening is a religious notion on Synnax.  Makes sense with the “Sleeper” being the central mythological character.

Shit. So much water! Keven Costner is going to show up, isn’t he?

They check the university for illegal activity.  Gaal encounters “Instructor Sorn,” apparently a former Professor at the university.  He knows Gaal from when she was a baby.  “All analytical learning goes against the faith of the awakening.”

She just tries to save him from the seers. “Just drop the books and go…”

“They are just words on a page.”  He gives her Kalle’s book of folding. “Furthering knowledge is the most noble work of humankind.”

Strong parallels between Synnax and the Galaxy.  Sorn is channeling Hari.

“We did this, not your slumbering God.”

The door looks like a Star Trek delta.  But otherwise, this is terrifying.  Sorn is cleansed which is to say executed.

Gaal takes part in the execution and then immediately (?) dives to retrieve the book she wanted.  Sure, NOW she raises a fuss about the rising water. And enters the math contest.

Gaal gets a message back from Hologram Hari.  No, not that one.

There are sexism and bias.  There’s resistance to Gaal’s solution because she’s a woman and from Synnax.  “The beauty of Mathematics is that it’s pure.”

Hari says it’s “ingenious, elegant, and true.”  A mathematician would not say “true.”

Gaal comes clean and complains about the rising water, but not she’s raising enough of a fuss and then she leaves for Trantor.

There’s not enough of a feeling of her awakening.  Doing the priesthood’s bidding and then sneaking around.  She seems like a hypocrite or a coward.  Also, there’s more “Math is Magic.”  500 years old problems don’t get solved overnight just because someone found a scroll.

Gaal on a ship.  It doesn’t make sense that the blood is still on her hands or the knife. 

That was quite a meltdown.  And “Raych Foss Arrival Protocol” screws up a beautiful theory.

There’s that font again.  It would have been a nice touch if it had been specific to Synnax.

Salvor tries to talk sense into the Anacreonians.  “Desperate people make mistakes.” 

I feel like I’m watching Braveheart.  I never wanted to watch Braveheart.

Meanwhile, the imperial ship arrives and the Anacreonians have hidden their cannon.  Lord Dorwin isn’t going to last very long, is he?

I’m not sure what purpose it serves to have the computer fucking with Gaal.  

That casket thing Hari’s in is going to keep him alive.  Obviously? (turns out, no.)

Lewis: “We will devote our lives to protecting the empire.”  It’s impossible that he’s that stupid.  Is it a pose?

Why would Lewis suspect Gaal was behind Hari’s murder?

Raych is cryptic.  Says not to lose faith in the plan.  The show makes it plain that he’s speaking for Gaal’s benefit.  There are too damn many executions on this show.

Phyra takes down the “standard imperial issue shield.”  Which they already told us was going to happen.

Cheap pathos.  Gaal’s attempting suicide.  We’ve made a lot of characters female, but they wouldn’t write a male character with crippling despair.  What the hell just happened?

The ship’s course was corrected.  It’s inconceivable that it would be that violent within the ship without some sort of warning. And the timing is ridiculously convenient.

Mathematical technobabble is annoying and it’s unrealistic that what she does is accurate enough given the numbers that she’s throwing about.  They want to show us Gaal is smart but the puzzles are annoying.  The mission is almost scuttled because the computer is screwing with her rather than giving her information.

Back on Terminus, there’s a ridiculous amount of shooting with no one getting hit.  These guys are worse shots than Storm Troopers.

Phrya has Salvor’s mom.  This is too much of a repeat of the earlier encounter where they tried to show us that Salvor’s smart.  But her Mom clearly understood what Salvor wanted it’s dumb to waste time apologizing.  This is a lack of respect for the audience.

The fight scene is pretty well choreographed but maybe not because it’s so poorly lit.  And the Grand Huntress of Anacreon should be more formidable.

Gaal goes to see with her own eyes.  But she shouldn’t be able to see the stars.  Letting this error slide is almost a convention, but making it a plot point just draws attention to it.

Terminus isn’t innocent.  “Because of what your profit said, my home world burned.”

Lord Dorwin didn’t last very long, did he?

The blood is disappearing of course Hari is still alive.  But what’s the deal with him phasing in and out? (In retrospect, this is Hologram Hari, Mark 1.)

Antiparallel vectors, by the way, have parallel but opposite directions.

Rating: 2.5 out of 5.

All Images from Foundation on Apple TV+.

Some Show News

We’re about four days out from the start of Apple TV+’s New Season of Foundation.

Here’s an interesting article about Season 2, centered around an interview with David Goyer.

You should read the whole thing, but here are some highlights.

  • We will see the Church of the Galactic Spirit.
  • Goyer “wanted to introduce more appropriate levity in the story.” I think that means introducing some levity.
  • Concerning Asimov’s Foundation, he says. “We do not set out to change as much as we can; we actually set out to retain as much as we can.”
  • And here’s a somewhat somber note which echos something you’ll hear us discuss in our Season 4 Episode 1: Goyer tells us, “There is a roadmap. I did originally pitch eight seasons, 80 episodes to Apple TV+. We’ll see if we get there.” We can hope!

The article also provides us with a new trailer!

Just a few more days… let’s go!

Stars End S3E37

“Asimovs Foundation Podcast and Philosophy”

I podcast, therefore I am. Or is it, “I podcast, therefore I philosophize?”

If you’ve listened to some of our recent episodes, you might think it’s the latter as recently we’re delved into topics like free will and pondered whether there’s an objective morality beyond things that we might be programmed with, like societal norms or the Three Laws of Robotics.

Well, if you like that stuff, you’ll love this episode! There’s a new book out called Asimov’s Foundation and Philosophy (AF&P), a collection of essays about… well, you’ve figured that out, right?

Remember books, by the way? They’re weird. You can read them, but they don’t have batteries and they’re made of wood, of all things!

We discuss this book with three of its authors, who are simultaneously two-and-a-half special guests!

Josef Simpson is one of the editors of AF&P and helped bring the book to life. He also wrote “A Foundation-al Lesson on Free Will and Determinism” for the project.

Our second guest is a long-time friend of the show, ⁠Cora Buhlert⁠! Cora was our first guest way back in Season 1 Episode 7. She is now our first returning guest and the first Hugo Winner to appear on our show as she was chosen the Best Fan Writer for 2022! Congratulations, Cora! Cora contributed “Between Cynicism and Faith” to AF&P.

The book also contains a chapter by our own Dan Fried, “The Dao of Psychohistory!” Thus, Dan is our one-half of a special guest as he splits his duties between interviewer and interviewee!

So if our excursions into philosophy have whetted your appetite for such things, pick up a copy of Asimov’s Foundation and Philosophy⁠. You’re sure to enjoy it! And if you want to read the book without harming a tree or through inaction allowing a tree to come to harm, here’s ⁠one option⁠.

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Season 2 Trailer

Here’s the latest trailer for Foundation Season 2. What’s up with those Pegasus-like creatures that can actually fly? Are they defying the laws of physics? And how do they fit into Asimov’s universe? We’ll probably have to watch season two to find out!

We’re down to less than a month and anticipation is building… let’s go!

The Latest Trailer for Foundation Season 2

Stars End S3E33

“Use the Podcast But Not to Justify Needless Harm to Individuals”

We interrupt our regular program!

Dateline: Capitol District, Trantor

This just in: AppleTV+ has announced the premiere date for Foundation, Season 2: 14 July 2023.

That means that we, at Stars End will be wrapping up Season 3 of the podcast and strapping in for Season 4!

Release Date! Trailer! New Episodes! We’ll talk about it! You’ll listen! It’s a psychohistorical necessity!

You can watch the trailer along with us on the episode right here.

Meanwhile still in season 3, we reach the climax of not merely Robots and Empire but The Great and Glorius Az’s Robot novels collectively! Do we finally get a satisfying ending? You’ll have to listen to find out! And just how philosophical do we get this time? We’re not saying! So tune in and join us already! We promise that no co-host melted down in the recording of this podcast! Probably.

This could very well be where the climax of the novel happens!

And speaking of meltdowns, the ultimate confrontation between Daneel and Giskard on the one hand Amadiro and Mandamus on the other play out against the backdrop of Three Mile Island. In Asimov’s future, this sounds like a vast deserted wilderness and maybe it is 3000 years hence. Not so today. Three Mile Island itself is pretty small, barely big enough for a nuclear power plant or two. Fun fact: TMA-2, the reactor that suffered a partial meltdown and was shut down in 1979 is currently in a state called “Post defueling monitored storage.” It will be officially decommissioned in 2052.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program. If this has been an actual emergency you would have been instructed where to tune in your area for Foundation and official Asimovalia.

Season 2 Sneak Peek

After a long drought of official information, we finally have an approximate release date and a trailer (well… they call it a “sneak peek”) for Foundation Season 2. It looks spectacular! We’ll discuss it as part of our special Episode 50 coming soon.

So, new episodes of Foundation, Summer 2023. You can watch the trailer below, then join us for episode 50!

Apple TV+’s Season 2 Sneak Peek

Stars End S3E13

“The Creation of the Podcast Was Looked Upon as the Prime Example of the Overweening Arrogance of Humanity.”

Well, we’re between books this episode, so we decided to read “The Robot Chronicles” from the Great and Glorious Az’s Gold: The Final Science Fiction Collection. It’s an essay in which Asimov discusses his robot stories, their inspirations, and their milestones.

So far, I’ve found Gold enjoyable. It contains the last of Asimov’s science fiction short stories, essays about his stories, and essays about writing Science Fiction. He insists, by the way, that Science Fiction be abbreviated “SF” and not “sci-fi.” You can find out why and read “The Robot Chronicles” and the rest of Gold here.

But, really, the bulk of this episode is an engaging and free-wheeling conversation with our special guest Travis Johnson, whom you may know from Twitter as @travisjohnson and/or @startravcommand. He’s one of the hosts of the Black Alert Podcast and created, with his 11-year-old daughter, a Star Trek Prodigy podcast called Star Trek Podigy. He has also published A Matter of Right: Futures of Justice, a “science fiction comics and prose anthology” about the US criminal justice system. Join us as we discuss Robots, Foundation, all things Asimov, and more! You don’t want to miss this one!

Update: sometimes I forget stuff, and I only remember when I listen to the episode after it’s published. This time it’s the Asimov bust that Travis told us he 3-D printed. It’s an impressive bit of work and here it is for your edification.

Stars End S3E12

“Softly Beaming, A Steady Light of Hope… the Stars End Podcast.”

Are you troubled by premonitions of unsavory equations or non-standard beverages?

Do you experience feelings of dread from your grandfather’s office furniture?

Have you or anyone in your family experienced prestidigitation, clairvoyance, astral projection, or sphenopalatine ganglioneuralgia?

If the answer is yes, don’t wait another minute!  The Second Foundation is for YOU!

Our courteous and efficient staff is on call 24 hours a day to serve all your psychohistorical prediction needs!

In this episode, we come to the end of Forward the Foundation with the story of Wanda Seldon where we finally see the inception of the Second Foundation as Hari discovers Wanda’s abilities and Wanda first becomes an important part of the Seldon Project before striking off with Stettin Palver to form the nucleus of the Second Foundation. Meanwhile, we hit the bittersweet part of any biography. Hari’s life winds down as he says goodbye to everyone he’s ever loved and is left only with psychohistory before we finally say goodbye to Hari himself.

And, in case you don’t recognize the reference above…

Stars End S3E11

“No one outside the podcast has the faintest knowledge of how psychohistory works and not everyone inside does either.”

If you’re read our one piece of fan fiction, “Dors,” by our very own Jon Blumenfeld, you’ve read an origin story of sorts for Dors Venábili.  If you like this character like so many others you should check it out; it’s excellent.

In this episode, we finally get to the chapter of Forward the Foundation featuring… well no, they all feature Hari but this one’s named after Dors.  It was called “The Consort” when it ran in Asimov’s Science Fiction in April of 1993 and to be honest, Dors plays a larger role in this story than the so-called “featured” characters in the other eponymous chapters.  If you hadn’t noticed the book has a bit of a pattern.  In each section, Hari says farewell to his friends and loved ones as his life winds down in ten-year increments. In this story, Hari and we get to say goodbye to Dors, nicely bookending with Jon’s story.

Our guest this week is one of Joseph’s oldest friends, Rick Tetrault. Rick is the host of the Starbase 66 Podcast from the Infinite Potato Alliance and also qualifies as an “old friend” of Stars End. Rick gave us a great deal of sage advice when we were just figuring out how to do a podcast. You might recall that Starbase 66 was the site of our first collective guest appearance back in December. You’re more than invited to check that out here: Starbase 66: Foundationally Speaking.

But first, without further ado: Episode 11!

Featured Image: Interior artwork from Asimov’s Science Fiction Magazine, April 1993.

Stars End S3E10

“We Must Keep the Podcast Stable If For No Other Reason Than That We’re Here”

Well, here we are again with another installment on Asimov’s swansong, Forward the Foundation.

You might recall that Forward was written as a series of Novellas the first three of which appeared in Asimov’s Science Fiction Magazine.  The installment we’re discussing this time is “Cleon I” which originally appeared in the magazine’s 15th-anniversary issue in April 1992 as “Cleon the Emperor.”  Much like the previous story, it isn’t very much about the titular character but it’s a lot about Hari Seldon.  This one is set during his tenure as Cleon’s First Minister.

But the cover, by Gary Friedman, is pretty great; it’s Asimov himself alongside a woman who is almost certainly Dors Venabali. I can’t say it’s Dors for sure, but I can state with absolute certainty that character is neither from Mycogen nor Dahl.

Inside the issue, there’s an extensive editorial about the Foundation series and its history and it answers, in part, one of the questions we posed on the podcast.  We’d wondered why Asimov decided to write Forward as a series of novellas and evidently, the genesis of the idea came from Jennifer Brehl, who Asimov calls “my brilliant and lovely editor.” He continues.

Jennifer thought it might be a good idea if I wrote a Foundation book in which the characters were new from one section to another.

I thought the matter through and decided that I would write a Foundation book (called Forward the Foundation) in which Hari Seldon gradually grew older. I would tell it in five installments and in each installment, Hari was ten years older.

It turns bittersweet as we get some bits of the story we’ve heard before.

I began work on it but then toward the end of 1989 disaster struck. I came down with congestive heart failure produced by mitral valve insufficiency. I was very sick and I was hospitalized for months. Actually, I was convinced I was going to die — but I didn’t.

And a bit later…

But there’s a catch (there’s always a catch). I’m tired. I’m just plain tired. I sleep a great deal and I drag around even when I’m not asleep…

And the worst trouble is that I can’t write very much. This is especially true of the new Foundation book. I wrote the first installment (in fact, it was published last November in this magazine) and the second and third parts are finished as well. The fourth part is almost finished but it’s been weeks and weeks since I’ve been able to work on it. Nor do I know when I’ll be able to get to it. Every time I try, I find I am too tired to work at it.

Whether I will improve with time, I can’t say. Certainly, there seems no sign of it at the moment.

Believe me, I am sorry about this; more so than you can possibly be. 

Coincidently, although the issue would have been printed weeks before, April 1992 is the very month that Asimov journeyed beyond this mortal coil.

You can read the entire editorial here.

And, if you want to learn more about those costume design awards that we mentioned, there’s some more information here.

But in the meantime, join us for our latest episode as we continue through the life story of Hari Seldon!